Sarah Naqvi — Math Lab Instructor — UofR
Broderick Wood — a little of everything — UofA
Dave Oster — UofS
Cary Bernath — Laboratory Coordinator (anything linux) — UofS
Jeff Deston — Windows support — UofM
Gilbert Detillieux — Senior Tech Support and Lab manager — UofM
David Duguid — Digital electronics lab instructor and tech — UofR (Engineering)
Alex Clarke — Lab Instructor — UofR
Dr. X. D. Yang — CS Dept. Head — UofR
Guili Liu — Lab Instructor — UofR
Tim Bliek — Purchasing for infrastructure and research projects — UofC
Allan Trumpour — Infrastructure CS Dept — UVic
Barrie Parker — Research and Labs — UofR(Math)
David Bocking — Computer Lab Manager - UofS
Florin Palanciuc — Technical Analyst for Science — UofR
Pat Wagner — Technical Analyst for Science — UofR
James Kraushar — MSDNAA coordinator and Programmer Analyst for Science — UofR
John Jorgenson — System admin for Laboratory for Computational Discovery — UofR
Trevor Douglas — Lab Instructor — Software Systems Engineering — UofR
Robert Jones — Lab Instructor — Industrial Systems Engineering — UofR
UofA and UofC mentioned involvement.
UofC Westgrid people are now on University payroll.
University of Saskatoon
Windows Terminal Server
Linux Terminal Server
(clients — limited server) NX Server http://www.nomachine.com/
Running on 4 3550s (64 bit capable)
Linux on VM
Dell 2950s running RHES
There are limits to how many VMs you can put on the same subnet — There can be as few as 128 IP addresses available which is sometimes too few as the IPs may be shared with other physical machines too...
Ulteo — web browser accessible virtual desktop that can serve Windows and Linux programs to any OS with a Java enabled web browser. http://www.ulteo.com/home/en/ovdi/openvirtualdesktop/features?autolang=en
Guaccamole — VNC viewer for web browsers: http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/345260/need_desktop_access_over_web_try_some_guacamole/
Xming — Free alternative to Xwin-32. Uses Plink for secure connection and data compression if necessary. Based on Xorg implementation of Xwindows. Comes with optional font package. Built in Hardware accelerated OpenGL support if appropriate hardware found. http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/
Learning is a social activity — place desks to allow more conversation
place 4 desks back to back and turn to talk.
Place computers in rows back to back and allow turn to talk.
Some universities are leaving a space at each work station for a laptop. That way people can do access their personal data and work with their own applications at their convenience, maybe do some gaming. Some places are providing network drops while others rely on wireless access. Power bar for devices.
There was some discussion of SSIDs (Wireless Network Service Set Iddentifiers), but I did not catch the jist of the conversation.
UofS Ubuntu enterprise cloud (Eucalyptus)
VLANs — need one
a bit like terminal server
University Managed Switches vs CS Managed Switches
Their requirements may differ from ours, so it may be advisable to avoid having Campus IT people do installations, eg:
POE (Example of a feature that IT relies on that may be deemed unnecessary for a small CS VLAN)
UofA is using it and things seem to be going well.
Here is a link to the UofA VPIT page regarding the UofA G-Mail Pilot program (Thank you Broderick.) Rob Lake from that office knows that this has been sent to the WCLM list: http://www.vpit.ualberta.ca/email/
Gmail public vs corporate. Out of country FOIA. Patriot act. Canadian privacy commissioner. There was some debate as to whether private data in emails, calendars, and Google docs could remain private, and what powers the Canadian and US governments had to discover and protect users' rights.
Archiving and porting email — Google provides special tools to whoever runs the local contract.
Professors who dislike campus email will turn to public email which has lower data protection promises. Content can and often is searchable, data mined, etc.
Costs: service is free for 8GB + storage. Some people are using 50% of that....!
Simplifies some management
@cs addresses must still be maintained and routed. ie: university still routes email, it is now stored and presented to end user by the off campus service.
Authentication: CCID (Campus Computing ID) vs CSID (Computer Science ID). Security?
Central calendaring — gmail works... if everyone is on it. Platform independent. Superior to Groupwise (hahaha... groupwise sucks etc.)
Guarantee of service.
Size of external internet connection is a concern — email is going off campus and being read from off campus instead of moving around internally...
Rest of Google apps are part of package. Optional, but available.
IMAP There is integration. They need the hash of the user's password. Not the password itself.
apparently some places are using one. Is there a commercial one?
Like a Laptop cart. (I assume it has USB charging instead of power bars)
Password sharing at UofS — SAM
UofC id creation. Only webform updates it in all services simultaneously.
UofR no, UofS yes, UVic yes, UofA transitioning — problems concern who gets what, account structure is complex — will not move until everyone is sorted out. UofM is using in house “GUTS” but a new central coordinated system is in development — begging lists of user-ids to coordinate manually — some done with forms — IST is not there yet, they don't create userids until after all fees etc. are done, but CS needs userids sooner.
Banner. Bad solution to a hard problem. “Best practices haha!” David B.
UofR is using netware, UofS is using Active Directory (it's working).
Active directory is kerberos..?
ssh tunneling — probably most secure
Novell netstorage and other related technologies — remote drive mounting and web interfaces... dubious security, awkward interaction.
Excel programming with VBA. (UofS)
Engineers who learn MatLab want to know how to do that stuff in Excel. (UofR)
UofM offers Python scripting in 1st year for engineers, but it is also offered to Science with possibility of feeding CS. Still new, so they have yet to see how it pans out as an intro to CS.
UofM(??) offers a two part non CS-stream service course to Business and related fields consisting of an Office course and a Web development course.
Who is hired for teaching Office products? Contact WCLM.
People are abandoning ship. Investigating Linux OS alternatives for servers.
There is old Sun hardware available for spare parts if institutions are locked into old hardware. Email the WCLM mailing list if you need assistance.
Slow adoption is occuring.
People want to give 64-bit a fair shot — probably will start testing Desktops in 64-bit and fail to 32-bit only if there are unresolvable problems with legacy software.
Some institutions are serving Mac Home folders over NFS. Most are using local users.
Noted that Apple's preferred protocol for network home folders, AFP, is badly broken. Assumes that only one user will be logged in at a time — makes Macs a poor choice for remotely accessible machines. Performs poorly if network lags, very sensitive to drift in clock.
Alfresco: Does a good job with document sharing
Sakai: does it all. Imports old content (but does it do it well?)
In addition to the ones mentioned in agenda we discussed
from the list in the agenda several said Eclipse is very good with enviroments for many popular languages: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/
For Windows and Linux on Intel PC hardware:
Use Ghost over network.
Boot to secondary Windows partition using network tools and run Ghost from there
@UofR: Merlin at UofS does this regularly. Talk with him about how it works, what to watch for.
MacOSX?? (Mentioned but no names recorded)
Unix/Linux?? (Mentioned but no names recorded)
OTRS — Provides ITIL compilant plug-ins (An important concern for UofA which has an ITIL compliance timeline to follow) http://www.otrs.com/en/products/otrs/
Slides provided by Dell are available only by email as required by Dell. Will send one copy to WCLM mailing list.